“Thoughts On The EPPP-2” By The American Psychological Association of Graduate Students (APAGS)

While We Are The Toughest Critic Of This and Similar Organizations, We Must Admit That..We Agree With Many of the Points Made Here By APAGS Chair, Dr. Christine Jehu: “Thoughts On The EPPP-2.”


Our Main Differences Is… That We Put Your “Thoughts” Into “Actions.

We Aggressively Fought For Graduate and Early Career Psychologists By:

1-Vocally Exposing The Financial Scheme To The Public 4-Months Ago.

2- Delivering Reports To Federal Agencies w/ Public Records and Factual Allegations.

3- Sending Reports to State Agencies w/ Public Records and Factual Allegations.

4-Publically Calling For A Federal Investigation Into Alleged Scheme w/ Public Records and Factual Allegations.

5-Publically Calling For ASPPB’s Revokation of IRS 501c(6) Tax Exempt Status w/ Public Records and Factual Allegations.


We Did NOT:

1-Hangout with ASPPB Folks After Being Made Aware of the Reported Issues (4-months ago).

2-Remain Silent For 4-Months Despite Being Made Aware of the Reported Issues.

3- Bring the ASPPB into Our ListServ To Silent Our Voices and Sell Us More Lies and Double-Speak.

There is a HUGE Difference Between What You “Think” and What You “DO.”

…and There Folks is Where We Stand Out.


APAGS: Your are More Than Welcome to Join Us in this Revolution for Social Justice. But, Passively Talking Your Way Through “Thoughts” and “Dialogue” Has Not Worked For Us In A Few Decades Now, and Has Indirectly Enabled This Financial Scheme. We Must Aggressively Represent Our Constituents. Anything Less Would Be Unacceptable.


Modern Psychologists: APAGS Response Shows You, That Your Call For Social Justice Is Pressuring The System. Without Your Efforts and “Raising Hell.” We Would’ve Been Shoved Down Our Throats With This Unnecessary Exam Already.


Finally, Here is APAGS “Thoughts on the EPPP-2“:

By Christine Jehu, Ph.D., APAGS Chair

“You may have heard that the Association of State and Provincial Psychology Boards (ASPPB) is currently developing a second examination (EPPP Step 2) for psychology licensure to assess clinical competency. This exam would follow the Examination for Professional Practice in Psychology (EPPP).

This exam may feel like a massive surprise to students and Early Career Psychologists. Unbeknownst to many of us, our field has been moving toward competency assessment  since the Competencies Conference in 2002 and subsequent publications highlighting the importance and value in competency assessments (e.g. Rodolfa, Bent, Eisman, Nelson, Rehm, & Ritchie, 2005). During the 2013 updates to the APA Commission on Accreditation’s Guidelines and Principles, the APAGS Committee provided a comment that supported the development of competencies based assessment, but had concerns about cost, the process of assessing competencies, and the fair implementation of a new exam  to psychology license applicants.

Given that ASPPB has started development of a clinical competencies exam, the APAGS Committee has discussed this issue at length. A number of concerns and issues arose that we would like to highlight:


Cost – The cost of the current EPPP is $687 in most jurisdictions. This is substantial to graduates who may owe a median debt of up to $200,000 (Doran et al., 2016). Students have reported that finances are the #2 stressor they face in graduate school (El-Ghoroury et al., 2012). To be fair to the next generation of psychologists, APAGS believes the cost of the EPPP Step 2 needs to be as low as possible, with serious consideration given to cutting costs in other areas as well (e.g., current EPPP).

Sequence of Examinations and Training 

  1. The EPPP typically is administered after the doctorate degree has been awarded and all requirements for licensure have been completed, including postdoctoral requirements in over 35 US jurisdictions. The ASPPB proposes the EPPP Step 2 be administered after the first exam. APAGS is  concerned that this would add substantially to the time it takes to get licensed, and psychologists already have the longest time to licensure when compared to other health professionals (Olvey, Hogg, & Counts, 2002).
  2. APAGS strongly recommends that applicants have the option to take the EPPP Step 1 (the knowledge based exam) as soon as possible after completing coursework, and ideally before internship. This would put the EPPP in line with the United States Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) Step 1 knowledge based exam, and would place the exam substantially closer to when coursework had been completed. Given that length of time from graduation is positively associated with a higher fail rate (Schaffer et al, 2012), moving the EPPP Step 1 before internship should substantially increase the first time
  3. Finally, with a clinical competency exam such as the EPPP Step 2, APAGS would encourage ASPPB and jurisdictions to adopt the APA policy on sequence of training, recommending the doctorate as the entry level into the profession. Functionally, this would mean that training prior to the internship could be counted towards hours required by jurisdictions for licensure, and would eliminate the need for a full year postdoctoral supervised experience. This would allow licensure to occur sooner, and have substantial positive financial implications for new graduates.


Test Development – APAGS would like to know the data on the validity of exams such as the proposed EPPP Step 2. The ASPPB website currently has references for the history of the competency movement, but does not list references for the type of exam it hopes to develop. APAGS is also concerned that the time frame for the test development is fast; and that, in an effort to reach the completion date goal, the test may not be as fully developed or as valid as it could be with more time

Test Preparation – Finally, APAGS is concerned that the EPPP Step 2 is being developed without appropriate training for students in the pipeline. It is unfair to pose a test to students without training materials and information to the education and training community. Therefore, implementing a test would need to come after materials were distributed to the training community so that rising psychologists would be aware of the exam and have experience with components of the exam. Distributing these materials widely also provides accurate informed consent to students entering the psychology pipeline.

An additional exam, and the associated costs that come with it, without other changes in the process, are not ideal for students who are in the process of becoming a psychologist. However, if this exam could allow for the EPPP Step 1 (the knowledge based exam) to be moved before the internship, and if jurisdictions adopted the APA policy on sequence of training to allow psychologists to get licensed earlier, there would be substantial advantages for future psychologists. An earlier EPPP Step 1 would result in more applicants passing the exam on the first attempt (which is a better outcome). Earlier licensure could have substantial positive financial implications for psychology graduates, such as being eligible for the National Health Service Corps Loan Repayment Program a year earlier, or having a better paying position with possession of a license. Such changes to the licensure processes would make the addition of the EPPP Step 2 much more bearable and also put psychology’s licensure process in line with that of many comparable professions.”

Still #NoEPPP2 ‪#‎APA2016‬

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